Joe Bonamassa episode....he hardly knew any VH. I have nothing against Joe, but he clearly has no idea when it comes to EVH. How about getting someone like Pete Thorn on?
Yep. But I went into the episode expecting that. You can tell he tried to say as much good things as he knew about Ed, but he didn't seem influenced and that's OK. Pete Thorn would be awesome. I sat through his video with 25 pickup swap outs, trying to nail the VH tone. Pete knows the nuances and is equally as much as a VH geek as 'we' are. Joe B, was sort of a miss but I appreciate his take on something he's not really into.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed what you’ve pointed out. From what little I know of Joe Bonamassa, an interview with him discussing the impact of Eric Johnson would be more interesting.
I read them. It only confirms that Steve Lukather is just not remembering what happened correctly and it also proves that he is unaware of the “clean-funky” syncopated overdubs that sound EXACTLY like Paul Jackson Jr. Marinelli is totally aware that there was a demo session for “Beat It” which Paul played on. This was the track that was edited to Eddie’s liking for the solo section which then required the re-cutting of the entire rhythm track at Sunset as Luke described. But let’s be clear here…Luke is probably wrong about Eddie recording the solo at his home. He did not have a completed studio in April of 1982 and even if Eddie got in a time machine and recorded it at home a year later when his studio was functional, he still couldn’t have physically played back the 24-track demo on the 16-track machine that was used to record ‘1984’ beginning in April of 1983.
Lukather has never mentioned the clean octave/syncopated overdubs on “Beat It”…not once. Not ever. He COULD have played those specific parts…but the fact that he has demonstrated no knowledge of those parts tells me that he doesn’t know about them…because even if Lukather did play those clean overdubs even he would have to acknowledge that those parts are 1000% in the unmistakeable style of Paul Jackson Jr. What Lukather can’t speak on is what happened to the “Beat It” track AFTER his involvement was over. He can’t speak on overdubs that might have been made after his work was complete and he can’t speak on the final mixing sessions. I think it’s pretty obvious that Luke is correct in saying that he recorded all the overdriven electric guitars on the final rhythm track exactly as he recalled, but because he never mentions the clean overdubs that seem likely to have been added to the track after his involvement was complete, I think it’s obvious that he’s just not aware of these parts.
He’s just obviously and provably wrong. If he refuses to acknowledge that the Musician’s Union Contract is an indication of factual events and he thinks it is just a made-up document, then he is calling out Edward who claimed over and over again that he did the session for free. Luke had a long-standing relationship with Q and we KNOW he got paid because he was one of the most in-demand session players of all time. But I don’t believe that Eddie was lying when he said he didn’t ask for or receive payment for the session to the best of his knowledge. I would imagine that Ed did get a small check from the Musician’s Union for a payment of Union scale for the session that he was not aware of. But beyond that, I think Eddie wasn’t lying about doing the season for free or close to free if his wife or accountant deposited the Union scale check and he wasn’t aware of it.
Do you think the Musician’s Union contract is fake or that the Musician’s Union made this document for some nefarious reason?
With all due respect to Steve Lukather, I must say that the evidence is not in the favor of Luke’s recollection. Just because someone is famous and has a long resume and is rightfully well respected for a stellar career in music, that does not mean that their memory is automatically correct on that basis alone.
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Joe Bonamassa episode....he hardly knew any VH. I have nothing against Joe, but he clearly has no idea when it comes to EVH. How about getting someone like Pete Thorn on?
Yep. But I went into the episode expecting that. You can tell he tried to say as much good things as he knew about Ed, but he didn't seem influenced and that's OK. Pete Thorn would be awesome. I sat through his video with 25 pickup swap outs, trying to nail the VH tone. Pete knows the nuances and is equally as much as a VH geek as 'we' are. Joe B, was sort of a miss but I appreciate his take on something he's not really into.
Couldn't agree more . I think George Lynch would been a better option than Joe.B.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed what you’ve pointed out. From what little I know of Joe Bonamassa, an interview with him discussing the impact of Eric Johnson would be more interesting.
The irony of getting emails from here telling us what we missed...lol
https://www.thetapesarchive.com/van-halen/building-5150-studio-article/
This is fun reading for anyone who hasn't had the pleasure.
is there an episode for A Different Kind of Truth???
My guess is late March of 2024...
Luke calls him out on this thread on Anthony’s own Instagram…
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpTEJVwLyt2/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
…read the comments
I read them. It only confirms that Steve Lukather is just not remembering what happened correctly and it also proves that he is unaware of the “clean-funky” syncopated overdubs that sound EXACTLY like Paul Jackson Jr. Marinelli is totally aware that there was a demo session for “Beat It” which Paul played on. This was the track that was edited to Eddie’s liking for the solo section which then required the re-cutting of the entire rhythm track at Sunset as Luke described. But let’s be clear here…Luke is probably wrong about Eddie recording the solo at his home. He did not have a completed studio in April of 1982 and even if Eddie got in a time machine and recorded it at home a year later when his studio was functional, he still couldn’t have physically played back the 24-track demo on the 16-track machine that was used to record ‘1984’ beginning in April of 1983.
Lukather has never mentioned the clean octave/syncopated overdubs on “Beat It”…not once. Not ever. He COULD have played those specific parts…but the fact that he has demonstrated no knowledge of those parts tells me that he doesn’t know about them…because even if Lukather did play those clean overdubs even he would have to acknowledge that those parts are 1000% in the unmistakeable style of Paul Jackson Jr. What Lukather can’t speak on is what happened to the “Beat It” track AFTER his involvement was over. He can’t speak on overdubs that might have been made after his work was complete and he can’t speak on the final mixing sessions. I think it’s pretty obvious that Luke is correct in saying that he recorded all the overdriven electric guitars on the final rhythm track exactly as he recalled, but because he never mentions the clean overdubs that seem likely to have been added to the track after his involvement was complete, I think it’s obvious that he’s just not aware of these parts.
He’s just obviously and provably wrong. If he refuses to acknowledge that the Musician’s Union Contract is an indication of factual events and he thinks it is just a made-up document, then he is calling out Edward who claimed over and over again that he did the session for free. Luke had a long-standing relationship with Q and we KNOW he got paid because he was one of the most in-demand session players of all time. But I don’t believe that Eddie was lying when he said he didn’t ask for or receive payment for the session to the best of his knowledge. I would imagine that Ed did get a small check from the Musician’s Union for a payment of Union scale for the session that he was not aware of. But beyond that, I think Eddie wasn’t lying about doing the season for free or close to free if his wife or accountant deposited the Union scale check and he wasn’t aware of it.
Do you think the Musician’s Union contract is fake or that the Musician’s Union made this document for some nefarious reason?
With all due respect to Steve Lukather, I must say that the evidence is not in the favor of Luke’s recollection. Just because someone is famous and has a long resume and is rightfully well respected for a stellar career in music, that does not mean that their memory is automatically correct on that basis alone.